Which explains why she made Joann kill the baby, or suffer from the environmental elements. The Facts Case Type: Crime Ms. It has very bad energy. I happen to be one of those deluded people youre so freely attempting to insult. What did the ME report as to the age of the baby? Your position Ive read a lot, Im right; you disagree with me, Ill say youre a moron. But thats just some of the ammo on Team Patricias battleship. Clearly, there are a lot of irrational people out there. Andrew also stated that when Pat called and Joann answered she had instructed her not to call again because they were married and they were happy. Sorry ladiesher hair was in the car and at the scene.she murdered them. Sadly, those who defend Rorrer do not want to be confused by the truth. The victims vanished on December 15. (Disclaimer: Im not a big fan of eyewitnesses who come forward years after the fact, but its possible). DA readily agreed they did not belong to Rorrer, was happy to admit they were never submitted for analysis. Im aware of Rorrers various appeals, but also aware that the bases for those appeals is to some degree unknown to observers, who rely on third-party reporting which may distort. Ep 204 - Patricia Rorrer: Under the Microscope TV-MA | 52 MINS | 2020 Patty Rorrer is convicted of the kidnapping and murder of her ex-boyfriend's wife and infant son, but "Wrong Man" investigators discover that the case is not so clear cut. Have you watched any of the documentaries Ive mentioned? Saphira Wolf forgive me, but I dont have the time, or wish, to respond to idiotic comments. This time, not surprisingly, the FBI did achieve a match. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. And its argued that it has been and dismissed as insignificant or irrelevant. If that really is the case, the husbands alibi for a date months before becomes irrelevant. Still, no good leads materialized. Stop trying to prove that everyone who is prosecuted is rightfully prosecuted. At 17, Patricia dropped out of high school and married landscaper Gary Gabard. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory.. I dont think so. That documentary points out that, despite the bodies of the two victims supposedly being exposed for several months, their condition remained relatively undisturbed by weather or animal activity. The 5-foot-9-inch-tall Patricia was physically strong, no match for 5-foot-4-inch Joann. In North Carolina, she reportedly enjoyed some success as a horse trader, riding instructor, and rodeo competitor. Andy did end up moving to Colorado with her and the last time I checked, they were still together. (McIntyre said that Egan ignored Traupman because he was a nut who said that the man he saw arguing with the woman in a car was Hispanic but wearing a fake mustache and a toupee. At 10:30 p.m., Andrew reported his wife missing. And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded. One of Patricia's alibis was that she was at a bar on the night of the abduction. February 8, 2020. None. I can't believe this bitch has a whole internet community rallying for her; have they SEEN the evidence? That phone call came in on December 7, 1994. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory. Great communicator. That woman has no soul. She got 12 months of probation for shoplifting at a Walmart in Lexington, North Carolina. DA readily agreed they did not belong to Rorrer, was happy to admit they were never submitted for analysis. And while youre on that list, you can be happy in the knowledge youre not in rarefied company. Opinion: the ideas that a person or a group of people have about something or someone, which are based mainly on their feelings and beliefs, or a single idea of this type.. If you so dearly feel the need to occupy the high ground in debate or an argument, have the decency to quote accurately. She will be in jail for the rest of her life and rightly so. And in a piece of salacious testimony, Patricia Rorrers half sister, Sandra Ireland, said that in May 1995, about six months after the murder, their mother, Patricia Chambers, stopped by the house and asked her to hold onto or hide a gun, or both. And I have absolutely no sympathy. Yeah, no. Keep her murdering ass locked up!!! Free Patricia Rorrer The fact that Joanne was found with a hair clutched in her hand that was inconsistent with both her and Patricia (that they conveniently didnt bother to test). Curiously after this latest test, the 39 hairs removed only 34 were accounted for what became of the absent 4 hairs? "Wrong Man" Patricia Rorrer: The Hang Up (TV Episode 2020) - IMDb Another witness, Walter Traupman, who never testified, had told state troopers that on the day of Joanns disappearance, he saw a couple who looked like Joann and Andrew arguing about the paternity of a baby. And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. Why not question some of this evidence? One of the hairs had magically developed root material to enable that. And last but not least, the fact that Michael McIntyre comes across as mentally unstable. She said that shes no fan of Forensic Files and that the show had many misrepresentations about her case and that shed heard ForensicFilesNow.com mixed up some facts as well. Have you read the book? Creating your profile on CaseMine allows you to build your network with fellow lawyers and prospective clients. She was convicted nearly 25 years ago of kidnapping and murdering Joann and Alex Katrinak, the wife and infant son of Rorrer's ex-boyfriend Andrew Katrinak. Unfortunately, most people cant distinguish reality from crackpot nonsense, and theyre only more unlikely to do so, given todays social media. Three days later, Joann had plans to pick up her mother-in-law, Veronica Katrinak, to go Christmas shopping. Patricia made daily phone calls every day but made no calls at all the day before, of and after Joannes murder as she was traveling and knew her phone could track her location. This Sunday, Investigation Discovery and velvety-voiced Dateline NBC correspondent Keith Morrison will revisit the double-homicide. Especially mice! While most of the documentaries come out as reinforcing her guilt, albeit most of them giving differing accounts of the speculation which was presented at her trial, some going even further by showing scenes that were offered as theories at her trial, as FACT. If Patricia drove it back from the murder scene after she shot Joann and then beat her to death, luminal would have lit up the interior. Traupman died in 2016. Patricia Rorrer - Wrongful Conviction, Innocent, Nonprofit Did Patricia have the dyed blond hair when they broke up in 1993? A few fries short of a Happy Meal, that one. That did amuse me I have to say, but youre way off target there Im more than happy with my state of mind before and after reading any of these comments. Required fields are marked *. Were suppose to ignore the actual forensic evidence and forensic opinions because we were told that a cop overheard her claiming she confessed? COVID in Tight Spaces: How an Incarcerated Woman Used Writing to Cope At 17, Patricia dropped out of high school and married landscaper Gary Gabard. I live in Pennsylvania, not far from where this happened. Had there been a switch? Her jealousy and rage because Joann told her to not contact her husband set her off. The Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Networks website also points to a bombshell: In 2015, the Justice Department acknowledged that most of the team members from an FBI microscopic hair comparison unit gave prosecutors flawed data from 1980 to 2000 that could have unjustly contributed to a number convictions including Patricia Rorrers. Just consider all your nasty posts about others opinions and learn to attack the argument, not the arguer with insults. Jealousy was the motive. Sir I would not kill somebody and I definitely wouldnt kill somebody I never met, Rorrer said. WOW JUST WOW PEOPLE ARE SO BLIND BY ALL THIS. The premiere episode will air following the series finale of Power. He had an attractive new wife and beautiful baby boy. The evidence is overwhelming of her guilt. This FBI report, of the hairs being unable to yield a DNA result because of the absent root material, was never revealed to Rorrers defence. Both were deceased. You ought to acquaint yourself thoroughly with the case and not allow yourself to get any further elevated on your high horse. Yes, that doesnt mean shes unquestionably guilty, but it does mean her case has been relatively exhaustively examined (and its not over) and it means that your assertion that you are right and the guilty camp are wrong (and that this should be obvious) is absurdly overplayed. she didnt need to . She was born on Jan. 24, 1964, in eastern Pennsylvania and moved back and forth between there and Davidson County, North Carolina. If in the woods in a rural area, no animal, rodent or insect touched those bodies? Why is this even a question, why people are trying to take out killers into society? Patricia is a evil monster. I most definitely will not personally afford Patricia a platform, Michael said in an email to ForensicFilesNow.com She had her chance to answer my questions and tell her story in court over 20 years ago. The hair evidence is not compelling because theres a very good possibility that the evidence was compromised. She made Joanne kill the baby PLEASE. Once, when a gun-wielding farmer and his buddy caught Patricia and Gary riding motorcycles on his field, Patricia walked up and got in their faces and argued, Gary recalled to the Morning Call. To be sure, an appellant does not have to *prove* (convince) of innocence to have been wrongfully convicted (even if they are in fact guilty but I digress). This woman was not innocent, but she is very good at manipulating people into feeling sorry for her. Killers can plan all the details and alibis well ahead of the murder while cops must come up with hard evidence, even just to make an arrest. Oh wait, sorry, you werent there. If you look at the crime scene picture, only parts of the mother seem preserved. And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. A newspaper account described Patricia as a soft-spoken, demure woman who had a sweet Southern accent and wore feminine clothes in court. Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison (TV Movie 2017) - IMDb In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. This video is currently unavailable. RR, Watch the Forensic Files episode on YouTube. Sure theres DNA, but if she truly is innocent then why not advocate to find the gun. 2. And James Pfeiffer and Jim Burke have remained on her side. Proven in court and sentence awarded!!! Watching this case on tv again today, I returned to this site and noted: I most definitely will not personally afford Patricia a platform, Michael said in an email to ForensicFilesNow.com She had her chance to answer my questions and tell her story in court over 20 years ago. She failed miserably to convince me, or anyone else who mattered, of her innocence. And for you to even ask why documentaries are biased, makes me wonder if you have the ability to determine fact from fiction! Agree with all you say but theres so much more involving incompetence, corruption, evidence tampering and then witnesses, in Rorrers favour, who were not disclosed to her defence her trial (something they were legally obliged to do). Im inclined to think both Rorrer and Routier are guilty. Very similar. Have you watched any of the documentaries Ive mentioned? Another thing that stumps me is Joannes supposed good friend who said that Joanne told her she was leaving Andrew. The Murders of Joann and Alex Katrinak [Unresolved Crime] - Reddit Once you create your profile, you will be able to: How about the mix up with the hair and the fact that it was not forensically tested (outside of the one man who compared the hairs through naked eye). Pal stays true. (Media sources vary as to whether she actually worked at the stable or just rented a stall there for her own horse.). His favorite rattle, shaped like a phone, lay near the crime scene. And even prosecutor Michael McIntyre, who wrote the book Hair Trigger about the case, acknowledged to Keith Morrison that it was a little odd that the police found blood on the hairs in Joanns car but nowhere else in the vehicle. Go watch the Reasonable Doubt episode from last night Patricia did it. They allege that the North Carolina resident stealthily drove 500 miles to Pennsylvania and killed out of a sense of deadly indignation. Or did they? He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. Today, Patricia Lynne Rorrer resides in State Correctional Institute at Muncy, a medium and maximum security facility that has the highest rate of cancer of all prisons in Pennsylvania, according to a story from northcentralpa.com. The "Wrong Man" team explores whether Vonda may have been wrongfully convicted. Patricias defenders also say Andrew Katrinak staged the scene at his house by prying the door and cutting the phone line. State police and the Philadelphia division of the FBI appealed to the public for leads. no blood, no finger-prints and no soil evidence it was as if the car had been wiped clean stated the attending investigating police officer!That itself has to be considered highly suspicious and cast doubt on the hair evidence which WAS found. I noticed that her defense lawyer and others advocating for her is not mentioning more about the gun. Patricia L. Rorrer was taken into custody from the Linwood home she shared with her boyfriend and 1-year-old daughter on June 24, 1997. Irelands husband buried it in the yard because he didnt feel comfortable with a firearm inside, she said. A person tried in a court of law and then found guilty is not the be-all and end-all to the case. Are you even aware theres a strong suspicion that evidence of the hair, which was DNA matched to her, was tampered with? I would suggest you take the time to read the book or, at least watch the documentaries which STICK TO THE FACTS, and then comment. The author that wrote the book on the Rutier case donates all the funds from that book to freeing Darlie Routier because the jury wasnt shown a lot of evidence of the medical issues Darlie suffered. She is a tough one, Sheriff Gerald Hege would later tell the Morning Call in a June 29, 1997 interview. I guess the investigators in Pennsylvania managed a quick resolve to a huge case that had a nations eyes scrutinizing their every move! I can only suggest you read through my comments again, only more thoroughly. What a lame article. It could be coincidence, but I really doubt it. Although I would have liked it to be death! Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. Youre right about my comments on other sites, but those seem to have an abundance of hate-mongers who feel no need to mince their words hence my retorts to those. and there are probably many people who still think he is innocent too. When police traveled to North Carolina to interview Patricia about the murders of Joann and Alex, she said that on the day of the homicides, she had visited a feed store, a tanning salon, and a country music club. They also think she killed her first hubby Larry Ford as well. I want to keep the tons of old jewelry but Im perplexed. This woman killed and is where she belongs! The District Attorney got this one right. Cops under pressure will lie to close a case. She didnt need to have owned all the guns she ever used, nor to have owned the gun she in fact used. After relocating to Pennsylvania, Patricia met the 6-foot-2-inch Andrew in a restaurant. She definitely did it. At 6 a.m. on June 24, 1997, police arrested Patricia at her modest house in Linwood, North Carolina, and took her back to Pennsylvania. But Patricia had moved from Pennsylvania years ago, and she'd started her own family in North Carolina. He wanted to move to Colorado and she was against it.. The fact that previous boyfriends noted her obsession with Andrew is very, very telling. Patricia Rorrer: The Hang Up: Directed by Joe Berlinger, Catharine Park. Shes extremely, extremely happy with the baby. You are not expressing an opinion but making an assertion or claim of fact: [I] have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. You are claiming innocence as fact there is no doubt shes innocent. We should be skeptical of those, like you, who suggest its obvious a jury got it wrong that you know better than 12 people presented with the evidence. The person who killed Joann is currently serving a life sentence because 10 months after Joann and Alex died, he killed another woman (who bore a striking resemblance to Joann) and her baby. . The investigation is a bit out of place, but the DNA test can be altered only if its made just from a pen, because otherwise it is not possible, only if they said they did it and didnt actually do it, which would be quite difficult because it would mean complicity between many persons. because theres money to be made from the commercials added into their show. Thus Im confident shes the perp probably mentally disturbed at the time (the thought of her rationally, coolly killing her babies is too horrible), though probably not to the standard for criminal mitigation. Hoist by your own petard. It then makes light of the fact that the car in which the (incriminating) hairs were found was absent of any blood. Remember, killers have the advantage over investigators. Patricia had a violent past and was absolutely positively the killer. I didnt know about the supposed SIDS death of Rorrers first-born. And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. Wouldnt that verify Troutmans claim that the husband was arguing with the victim, in a rage? Suzanne Pearson fabricated quotes from Patricia including her claim that Patricia said, Im going to the electric chair upon her arrest because a conviction would boost Pearsons career. (even though hes married and has a baby) Who does that?!! I believe this woman murdered Joann and Alex. Superior Court states that Patricia Rorrer and Andy Katrinak's romantic relationship ended in May, 1993 only one year before the murders. Check out ALL the facts if you feel the need to comment. Just one example. I was like OK, maybe she was tired, you know with a new baby. Assuming Mr K didnt have a cast-iron alibi, I imagine the resistance to his notional perpetration is his not only killing his baby but leaving him to suffer horribly (of exposure) first, when there was no evidence of his mental dysfunction nor motive of pecuniary gain (as far as I know). Tiffany, it is amazing you have all the answers to these murders! Catherine are you sure your names not Karen? Aside from the hair, there was almost zero forensic evidence. PS Speculative lies is meaningless. Later, they both worked 12-hour graveyard shifts at a textile factory. New state, new man. I hope and pray the cops and the husband will finally do the right thing. September 2020 - Forensic Files Now Have you read the book? Watch Wrong Man season 2, and then come back and make comment. It makes me sick. Lets stop pretending we can definitively prove this woman murdered this woman and her child. Theyre just not willing to investigate/research as to the truth. Prime Video: Wrong Man - Season 2 If you want to help her tell her to ask God for forgiveness. As for him, yes, it looks like the first suspect, but if he had alibis, quite hard to accuse of actually doing it, and I understand it was a pretty solid one. in tandem with no evidence of home invasion. She failed miserably to convince me, or anyone else who mattered, of her innocence.. The police report misspells his name (Troutman) and doesnt include his address, suggesting authorities didnt want anyone to track him down, according to Patricias side. His hair (back in 94-95) was dirty blonde and roughly 8 inches long. Psycho For Love: Patricia Rorrer killed her ex-boyfriend's new wife Theres also the matter of a woman who suddenly remembered she saw Joann with another man at a Food Mart store five days after the disappearance. That is not just a circumstantial case, that is both circumstantial and forensic, and it is pretty air tight. They were there in the winter months in which the bodies would have been frozen most of the time. After researching this case more thoroughly, I stand corrected about the time it took the jury to return a verdict. The likelihood of a mad slasher invading the home, engaging in infanticide, over against her own perpetration, is almost nil. She is 100% guilty seen 2 programs on this awful murder and read about it as well. What a contrived case! Too bad she got off with just a life sentence. The media love the femme fatale., FBI lab blunder. Mr Steve J When Andy Katrinak comes home to find his wife and infant son gone, he summons the police and tells them he believes they have been abducted, and he suspects his ex-girlfriend Patty Rorrer might be involved. This was a horrible and brutal double murder and whoever did it needs to be locked up forever. They were telling the truth and revealing the type of person she was, a person that definitely would kill out of jealousy and revenge. There was a blood-stained fingernail and hair found on the victims body, and even though (in Keith Morrisons Dateline documentary) the Asst. Shes just extremely happy with Andy, her brother, Michael OConnor, told the media. Patty was soooo obsessed with Andy that she moved away to North Carolina some 5 years before this happened, right? I think Patricias defenders are implying the hair came from some unknown person. There appears to be evidence of her disturbed thinking shortly prior to the event (inc her stating she knows who the perp was shortly after but would not identify because its her?) Someone had shot Joann in the face with a .22-caliber pistol, then beaten her about the head hitting her 19 times in all with a blunt object. Her non-serious but potentially fatal (proximity to artery) injury could have been a half-hearted suicide attempt if not intentional other-incriminating. Its his hair (dirty blond and roughly 8 inches in length) that was found in Joanns hand. Patricia Rorrer was convicted in 1998 of murdering a young mother named Joann Katrinak as well as her 15-week old infant son. Meanwhile, the case of the missing mother and baby turned into colossal news across the U.S. and internationally. How so? Rorrer is as guilty as OJ Simpson. They noted houses near the murder scene would have heard a gunshot in December, when no farm equipment is making noise, and question why the murderer didnt just kill Joann inside her house instead of risking being seen in public in her car. They really need to set her free and open the case and look at the husband. You started slinging insults, then got insulted when slung back. Then 31 years old, she had lived a rocky existence. After one bullet didnt kill Joann, the gun locked up, so Patricia had to beat her to death, according to the prosecution. Police identified the pair as Joann and Alex Katrinak. Pfeiffer and Burke claimed that police Sgt. Dont know from where youve got your information about this case my guess is youve been watching a lot of those documentaries which revel in showing the case in a disgracefully biased manner.
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